Nicky Asher-Bowling
Hello everybody! This is Nicky from Motherhood Unfiltered: It’s going to be okay! Today I have Mary Welp on the podcast, and she is the author of rise hypnotic meditation, and she is a cranial sacral and hypnotherapist. First tell me about being a Hypnotherapist and how this cranial sacral works?
Mary Welp
Yeah, well, cranial sacral is what I started doing first, and it’s a body work. And it was started by Dr. John Upledger. And when he was doing surgery, he saw the cerebral spinal fluid move in the body and started to realize the connection of that fluid. And then it had an ebb and a flow to it kind of like the tides. And it was he’d see that ripple effect. And when there was an issue in the body or blockage that flow stopped in that area of the body. And so,, he started investigating how hands on work can help get the flow going better and help with the connection and help to kind of heal the body.
Nicky Asher-Bowling
So, how does? How would one do something like this to do? Because I know we talked and is the hypnotherapist is this something that I can do to help or do for myself?
Mary Welp
Yeah. So, I noticed with my clients, they were asking me for homework between their sessions, start working on something and they’d say, well, how can I keep this going? How can I do my self-care and take care of myself? So, I started teaching them self-hypnosis. And they came back and told me of all the different ways they were using it, it’s like okay, my sleep is better. But now I have issues with my husband and I’m going to start you know, working on my patients and being able to, you know, communicate and in civil manner about the wet towels on the floor, and you know those kinds of things. So, I started teaching in that and they told me all these different ways they were using it, I realized that it was a great self-help tool. And I started teaching it to everybody that I could. And when the pandemic happened, and my one-on-one practice stopped, I started thinking about how I could teach it out in mass, because we need the self-help tools. We’re all struggling. You know, this is a chaotic, hard time night. Course. I think we could say that about any time of my life, I think I could have said that, for one reason or another. Exactly. So, we need tools, we need to not feel stuck. We need to we can’t always get to our therapists, they are so, overwhelmed and overloaded right now. And I think once we start looking at our thoughts, and wondering and questioning why we think that way, why we react in a certain way, right? why certain things bother us more than other things, right? As we want to shift those things rise. Hypnotic meditation is a tool that you can learn and use to shift ways of thinking,
Nicky Asher-Bowling
Oh, so, did any of your patients come back and said that they hypnotized their husband to do all kinds of different things?
So, hypnosis, I know it’s about working on themselves, and then not being reactive to where they can let it go, where it’s not so, critical, or at least they don’t have to blow up about it, they can communicate in a more helpful manner. And, you know, sometimes we watch our parents fight, or we watched whoever raised us fight, and then we go to that mode, right. But as we grow, and we change, and we have partners that don’t act that way, we sometimes need a way to, to, you know, restructure our thinking and restructure our program. There’s a funny story about imprints and why we do think that a woman is making a ham one night, and she cuts off the two ends of the ham, wraps it up and puts it in the oven. And her husband says Why did you get the day off? And so, well, that’s how my mother always says, she goes to her mother and said, Mom, why do you get the ham in the ham? Before we bake it? And she says, well, I don’t know. That’s how my mother always. So, this woman goes back to her granny and the creating, why do we cut the ends off the ham before we take it? And she says, Well, that’s because that’s the size of my oven. Has nothing to do with the ham cooking or properly. It’s just you know, but we kept on with that same way of doing because that’s how she learned that how her mother learned.
Nicky Asher-Bowling
Yes, I’ve heard that story. And it is a great analogy, because it totally portrays how generations will just do the same thing over and over and don’t even know why.
Mary Welp
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and we grow, and we learn. And I think that’s part of the evolving, and I think we all need to evolve. And I think when we do that our children do, you know, don’t do it just for ourselves, we do it for our family and our community, right, because it does have a ripple effect, you know, and we’re walking around the world a little bit happier, a little bit more adjusted a little bit more, you know, full of self-care and self-empathy. And when we don’t feel stuck, I know, I’ve had periods of depression in my life, and I’ve had periods where I felt stuck. I didn’t know how to get out of the way I was thinking, right? And, and sometimes, you know, we just need tools to look at it and say, okay, this isn’t, you know, my brain wants safety. So, it’s examining and judging, and being critical on everything because safety, right? Whereas if we tell ourselves, no, we’re safe. It’s okay. I can grow, I can learn, I can do better. I can be happy or like
Nicky Asher-Bowling
You’re saying that, like, it’s just the easiest thing, which it is, but no, no, I don’t think that way. I’m like, why would I tell myself that I’m in? I’m in a safe place, you know? But I, to me, it’s just so, astounding. It’s like there’s the basics, concepts that we knew when we were growing up, I heard of it. You get through life, and it’s like you don’t get buried in the back of your mind?
Mary Welp
Absolutely. Because I know there were times where I said, I’ll never do it the way my mother did it. I’ll never say that. What she said, I would never do that. And then it comes right out of my mouth. You know, and you got to give yourself, you know, a bit of credit. But I think when we recognize it, and we say, I really don’t want to be that I really don’t want to say that. I don’t want to represent that to them. Right? Then it changes everything. Because you’ve set that intention, even whether you’ve done the work, whether you do rise hypnotic meditation or not. It’s just recognizing, okay, this is a, this is a pattern that I see now that needs to go.
Nicky Asher-Bowling
Right, right. I love that. I really love that because it just lets you know that you’re never too old to learn new tricks. And I hear that you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. It just discourages me and I’m like, No, I don’t want to ever be in a position where I can’t do something to better myself grow. You know, I have growing and learning always. Yeah. So, I have. So, if I have a problem. So, I go to Mary, and she teaches me this technique. So, is this something like you just works on one thing at a time, like, okay, Mary, I want to work on. You know, you know, not yelling or something. And
Mary Welp
I would recommend it that way. And I encourage it as a meditation practice because people who meditate are used to doing it every day. So, sometimes you have a big problem to work on something times, there’s really something in your face that you need, you need your attention. And this is great for that. But there’s also, those days where you just, you know, want a little piece or a little happiness, it doesn’t have to always be a big deal. It can also, be I use it every day, at the end of the day, to kind of reset the things that went well, I gave myself a pat on the back saying good job, keep it up. And the things were put my foot in my mouth, or it didn’t go well, or I goofed. I hurt somebody’s feelings; I said the wrong thing. You know, I have empathy. So, yeah, and you know, we all do, right, and but we carry it over, we let it mound up, we let one issue go on top of another one. And I think even if we just had a way to spend three or four minutes at the end of the day, to kind of clear that hard drive to move into the next day, we wouldn’t let these things mound up.
Nicky Asher-Bowling
Oh, wow. I love that analogy. Because I always think of our brains like a computer. You know, all day long. And using you’re accessing information. Yes, you know.
Mary Welp
Yeah. And if we’re not getting good quality sleep, then we’re not getting that reboot or not getting that refresh that the body and the nervous system really needs because our minds will go to that limbic brain quick. It will go to that fright flight really, fast. But to slow down and really think about okay, what do I really want to say here? How do I really want to react? I’ve just been triggered what do I really want? Yeah, you have to slow down and really take your time. And I think by looking at our thoughts and starting to deal with them, it lets us live a happier life because we don’t feel subjected to our thoughts were thoughts. The first part of the book is explaining how it works and why it works. Okay, explain why I do this as a meditation practice encourages such and, about self-hypnosis. There’s a lot of stereotyping and stage hypnosis and give us a terrible rap. Yeah, but everyone who does stage hypnosis is performing and they know they are performing. When you are doing self-hypnosis as a therapy or to have more productive thoughts, then you’re not performing. It’s a different purpose. So, I explain all that and then I have explained the four steps of rise and how to relax imagine suggest in power, how to do them what they represent. And then in the back of the book, I help you set up your programs So, what works best for you? What do you want to address? And then there’s also, 25 or 30 Different suggested meditation. So, I have rise for sleep rise for patients, rise for surgery, rise for guilt. Again, there’s 25 or 30 different topics. And they’re meant to be springboards. Because I really want people to find what works best for them. And then, you know, get in that group, and really practice it daily so, that they can be happy.
Nicky Asher-Bowling
So, with this shooting that happened recently, I feel like our young people are not being taught the tools to handle emotions, diversity, cultural differences, & things like that. And I think that that your book could help kids to learn these tools.
Mary Welp
Absolutely. Yeah. And I might participate in mind fest, Louisville this weekend. I live in Louisville, Kentucky, and mind Fest was locals have been really hit hard by violence and Breanna Taylor. So, we’ve been going through a lot in the last few years. And it was wonderful to see the young people come out and they’re angry for a way to do things our culture doesn’t address doesn’t teach how to be happy and healthy. It doesn’t talk about our conscious and our subconscious brain and how its programmed and how we can reprogram. And, you know, we so, we feel stuck, we feel stuck. And so, I think it can help. And, yes, I’d like to get it out to the young people. I think if we could teach this in schools, if they had it at a young age, that would be really wonderful. And I know, I have been using it a lot in the last 36 hours. Because my son and his wife are both schoolteachers. So, this hits me really close. And it it’s Yeah, so, I’m just trying to keep myself you know, me losing, it doesn’t help. It doesn’t help my daughter in law, it doesn’t help, you know, the local school system, it doesn’t do anything other than having me event. So, for me to stay calm and for me to stay present for him and be supportive. And that’s, that’s what I’m here to do. So, trying to not be that reactive mother and get triggered and you know, you know, get in there and stand behind them and protect them all day. I probably end up doing which wouldn’t go well with him either. Using the RISE method, you’re even more aware, because a lot of what we do when you’re self-hypnotizing is, you’re using visualization. So, it’s kind of like a waking dream, or a fugue state, but you are creating the scenario that you’re seeing. So, you know, if you want to address getting rid of something, for example, I use like to use the example of anger. You can envision your anger as a red-hot ball of flame and go to a beautiful place with a beautiful lake or somewhere that you feel really safe. And put that anger there. Give that up to nature. And watch a turn, watch it turned blue, watch the steam come up from the water. And so, you’re visualizing a shift and a change so, that you can embody it because the mind works in stories. Wow. We’re storytellers real. And that’s how we learn is through our senses and through storytelling. So, you’re going to tell your subconscious, a new story that’s more productive, maybe then the real that it’s been running.
Yeah, it’s practice. But now I can do it really quickly. And I’ve done it in restaurants before where I got triggered, and I got off to the bathroom and do my rides and kind of get myself back together. Because the restaurant didn’t need to hear about what I was upset about. And, you know, it was a, it was a flippant comment made by someone who’s being rude and present. And, you know, if I get two people at Walmart to do this, so, everybody needs to see their events, more love in the world. Or at least meditation. Yeah. And it does start here. And it does. It really, I’ve seen it happen in my own life. And I’ve seen it in my clients’ lives. And they, you know, they talk about their kids being happier, and they’re more approachable, and they’re not as quick to temper and they’re not as quick to be reactive. Yeah. And, you know, it’s. So, it’s a good practice, just because it really helps us set intention. And when we set intention, that’s what moves energy. When we say, Okay, I’m done with this, I’m ready to go over here that sets things in motion. That’s the manifesting is just by saying this is what I want.
The book, it’s a powerpack, 90 pages, I there’s no really not a lot of fluff. I’m good. I’m too direct. And to the point people don’t have time to read, it’s kind of a workbook too. So, it helps you think about, you know, the way you would use it. So, R stands for relax. So, it’s like, where do you hold tension in your body? You know, where do you get sore? Where do you feel when you’re stressed? Where do you tighten up your jaw? Or neck? Is it your arms, you know, so, it has to be somewhat reflective as you read the book, so, that by the time you get to the end of it, you really know how to put your program together. And if you need any help reach out. Reach out. No, I’m very, I’m very approachable. The book is there https://www.risehypnoticmeditation.com/. And there’s also, a lot of free videos on there that talks about what the acronym means, how to use it, why rise works, what we’re actually doing here with the brain. And then I think there’s a rise for patience, rise for peace, rise for guilt, and a couple of others as well. And I’m adding to the library all the time. Yeah. So, that’ll give people kind of, again, a springboard.
Yes, and also, our brains work differently. So, the suggest part, the s part of rise, you can do in several different ways. So, depending on how you process, you might find one that works better for you than others. So, it’s a good time to try different ways. I’ve got some classes coming up. And again, I love to travel and teach so, if anybody has a group, or their studio or anything like that to learn more, please.
Nicky Asher-Bowling
Mary, have you written any other books?
Mary Welp
I’m a coauthor of my shoulder here which is self-healing volume five, oh, put together by a woman a publisher and she got different healers of different types of the did all different nutritionists colon hypnotherapist you know, all different types psychologist and we’ve all written a chapter of the book so, I’m chapter 12 of volume five and I talk about how I first started going down this road of this kind of work and then I talked about our the first stage of rise Yeah, Because I’ve only been doing it for a year it since the pandemic happens. So, this is all pretty new. But the workshops are going really well. I’m very encouraged because it works. I was at the yoga festival I was at this weekend. I had 22 people in my class and right down the hills all outdoors right down the hill. They had laughing yoga going on. So, they had a whole group of people doing laughing yoga and I’m like how I get these, how am I going to get people to drop down, and really relax into their bodies and as long as loud laughing yoga going on, but it worked. I loved her and her daughter I actually saw something on Facebook the other day with horses’ yoga with horses that would be a whole other level Yeah, I don’t know how to do that well
Nicky Asher-Bowling
Mary, how can someone reach you?
Mary Welp
So, it really is the best way to go through because it comes directly to me so, feel free to do that you can sign up to take the teacher training I’m going to do in September so, I am beginning to teach other teachers how to do this so, if you would like to learn a meditation practice to share with your friends or to share with your yoga community or your meditation group are you there feel free to reach out to my website.